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If Timbertown was to be redeveloped to make it a significant and viable tourism facility, what additional activities and experiences do you think should be part of the theme park?
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Comment 1 15 Jul 2009, 2:42 PM
The sale of local and exotic timber species as well as re-cycled structural timber to raise funds for the park. Timber is often donated to Timbertown and the Woodworking Club who can mill it into useable sizes for sale to the general public. Timber donations can be sourced from the council and also the local arborists and tree trimming businesses. Re-cycled timber can also be sold and sourced from council re-development projects, the public and local tradesmen. This needs to be available without entering the park.
This service could also be used to promote re-cycling of timber by Do It Yourselfers.
Comment 1.1 15 Jul 2009, 3:10 PM
Removed by moderator at the request of HappyHammer.
Comment 1.2 17 Jul 2009, 12:03 PM
Come on don't be shy if you disagree tell us why....
Comment 1.3 24 Jul 2009, 8:23 AM
Surely this site is about retaining Timbertown not just about fundraising.
Comment 2 15 Jul 2009, 3:57 PM
I notice in the proposed attractions several museums are listed. These would be excellent attractions for local school and tourist groups interested in the history of the area. The museums should be interactive and contain information on the history of the area as a whole from Cooks first naming Tacking Point to Flinders and on to Oxley.
Information on how the area was logged and how and where the timber was used originally right up to how the state and national forests are managing logging today would be great to make the museum relevant to todays generation and the management going forward.
Comment 2.1 24 Jul 2009, 8:26 AM
This is what Timbertown is all about.
Comment 3 16 Jul 2009, 12:43 PM
The short term problem is that our over the top OH&S, compensation, insurance and litigation makes it impossible for any public facility to function without extreme measures and coverage to protect all involved .. Therefore the costs involved make it very difficult to run and facilitate the average tourism park etc .. My ideas for redevelopment would include the use of Local, State and Federal Government money to finance the " idiot proofing " of the original complex and the instalation of a kid/ teenager fun park, be it water based of ride based on the land down the back.. more…
Comment 3.1 24 Jul 2009, 8:30 AM
Peppermint Park, Old Sydney Town, The Beach (Mt Druitt) and other parks usually close because of insurance or visitor reasons. Rides will only increase the possibility of litigation.
Comment 3.1.1 8 Aug 2009, 10:40 AM
Without a wide availability of different rides, Timbertown is a "dead" site, void of real interest and thus unlikely to attract the multitude of visitors (and repeat visitors) that it requires to be viable.
Comment 4 16 Jul 2009, 8:16 PM
Side show type amusements in the theme of the 1880s, ie Shooting gallery. Sell show bags. Possibly some form of log ride or whitewater ride similar to dreamworld. Hide substation and pumpstation etc with false facades. Possibly have some gold rush type displays / activities. Tidy up the area at front where there is just gravel to entice people to enter. Promote timbertown to schools. Have a nightly show at additional cost to the day entry? Create a park masterplan.
Comment 4.1 17 Jul 2009, 8:34 AM
A Log Flume would be a great attraction.
Comment 4.1.1 24 Jul 2009, 8:37 AM
It would be an expensive attraction to build, maintain and operate. It would have to be an outside contractor or again it will fall on the ratepayers to support it.
Comment 4.2 20 Jul 2009, 10:47 AM
Agree 100%. Take a look at the Wild West ride at Warner Bros Movie World, the old Log Flume ride & the Gold Mine Roller Coaster ride at Dreamworld. They are hugely popular rides. Seen the queues for the water slide at Wauchope pool in summer!
Surely private enterprise can get involved in the ride side of things.
Tidy up the rest of the place & make it more interactive (school holidays & maybe weekends).
Give both locals & tourists a GOOD FUN & GOOD VALUE reason to keep coming back & they will.
The steam train absolutely must operate. Little kids & big kids alike, love it. Without it there is nothing left!
The new Timbertown needs to be promoted extensively. If people don't know about it, they will not come.
Comment 4.2.1 24 Jul 2009, 8:38 AM
The steam train is Timbertown; it must be running again.
Comment 4.2.1.1 8 Aug 2009, 10:16 AM
Without an operating railway (and not only the minature one!), Timbertown is not the Timbertown that I know. The long ride through the bush, the whistles, the timber trestle, all add to the ambience that attracts me back to Timbertown. The expressions on children's faces as this real steam train chuffs around the Park is a joy to watch and cannot be lost to Timbertown.
Comment 5 17 Jul 2009, 11:08 AM
It's time to bring Timbertown up into the 21st Century. Look at one of the most successful UK open air attractions for ideas on heritage - http://www.beamish.org.uk/Home.aspx. Also look at MAGNA in Rotherham UK a science facility based on the steel heritage of the South Yorkshire area - http://www.visitmagna.co.uk/. You must cater for families to be successful, parents have the biggest spending power and are greatly influenced by facilities. There should be a log flume, a gold mine attraction either a simulated ride or a real underground facility, a mini interactive hands on farm, a steam train rollercoaster type ride, more…
Comment 5.1 17 Jul 2009, 12:16 PM
Totally agree regular events particularly in the holidays will encourage repeat visits as the experience is changing all the time.
Also like the conference facilities idea as an opportunity to generate income.
If they can make a go of a park in the North-East where the weather is shocking we should have a headstart :-)
Comment 5.1.1 17 Jul 2009, 5:10 PM
We've just built a $60 million structure - why the hell do we need another?
Get real!
Comment 5.1.1.1 21 Jul 2009, 4:20 PM
Tfhere are thousands that didn't want the $60 million structure and many more thousands that would like to see Timbertown survive.
Comment 5.1.1.1.1 22 Jul 2009, 11:31 AM
Timbertown has a unique heritage and position within the Hastings and Greater Port Macquarie area, and the potential to be a massive attraction for families. It is an all-day facility which offers something completely different to the Glasshouse (Bundy). You can see kids wandering round the art gallery or taking in a Shakespearean play during their school holidays can you? Port Macquarie / Hastings may be "populated" with a high proportion of older people but the tourist industry it catches has a much greater potential to attract families if the facilities are improved. The http://www.tra.australia.com/content/documents/DVS/First%20Round%20of%20Reports/VPS%20Reports/VPS_Greater_Port_Macquarie_FINAL.pdf for 2007/8 showed that the more…
Comment 5.1.1.1.1.1 8 Aug 2009, 10:46 AM
Timbertown needs to remain a unique museum of the timber industry of Wauchope. It should not attempt to replicate any other attraction - and at present, it doesn't and so should be a continuing attraction in its own right.
But it does need to be widely advertised as an operating attraction - particularly through the surrounding holiday resorts and on the approaching highways / main roads.
Comment 5.1.1.2 24 Jul 2009, 8:45 AM
This is about Timbertown, not the Glasshouse.
Comment 5.1.1.3 4 Aug 2009, 11:26 AM
Bundy you just don't get it Timbertown doesn't need 60 million and if council hadn't neglected since it reopened it would not need millions spent on it now. I don't agree that it needs millions spent on it, but some wonderful things could be done with millions to make it more attractive to YOU!!!
some of the brake down of the 15 million that council is quoting - 4 million dollars for a new front entrance- we don't want another glass house out the front!
5 million for a 5 star motel - why when there is one next door
I feel it needs an accredited education package with some dormitory style accomodation for both schools and corporate groups (bonding weekends) and a small over night caravan park something that Wauchope desperatley needs!!!
Comment 5.1.1.3.1 6 Aug 2009, 12:57 PM
I'd rather go to a conference held at timbertown than the Glasshouse and I've been to a lot of conferences.
I like the education package, bonding and caravan park ideas too.
Comment 5.1.1.3.2 8 Aug 2009, 11:01 AM
$5 million can be saved immediately from the estimates by having any accommodation facilities constructed nearby by private business - IF it is needed. I would have thought that there is already suitable accommodation nearby, as well as it Wauchope itself and at Port Macquarie. Any "small overnight caravan park" would not be a core activity for Timbertown and should be left to others to undertake.
Highway billboards, airport and promotional signage ($50,000) is immediately essential in order to promote Timbertown and attract additional visitation.
Other proposed attractions could be staged, with the construction of an adventure centre ($100,000) and amphitheatre ($850,000) last on the list.
It would appear from the "Description of Compliance Related Issues" that Timbertown has been allowed to "run down" in recent years - and questions need to be asked: WHY and by WHOM? Who was responsible for the ongoing maintenance?
Comment 5.2 20 Jul 2009, 10:33 AM
I agree very strongly on the attractions & rides side of things but is there really room, financially, for another conference centre/meeting rooms?
There are already several in the Hastings area.
Comment 5.2.1 6 Aug 2009, 12:58 PM
As per response above I'd rather go to Timbertown than the glasshouse for a conference.
Comment 5.3 24 Jul 2009, 8:43 AM
All these things will bring visitors. The Glasshouse has nothing to do with Timbertown issues; please stay focused on the positive outcomes that can be achieved at Timbertown without personal views on other issues.
Comment 6 17 Jul 2009, 8:15 PM
There are more visitors to Port Macquarie each year than there are to Timbertown
The issue is to get more visitor dollars for Timbertown
Timbertown is the major tourist attraction for Wauchope and the only one of its kind within a large travel radius
Yet Timbertown is very poorly promoted on the Pacific Highway
If you drive South from Blackman's Point turn off there is no major advertising billboard/hoarding for Timbertowm
There are two small signs just before the Doughnut and unless you were a local you would not know that Timbertown was not a country village like Adamstown
I suggest two large billboard advertisements on the highway for Timbertown (one south of the Doughnut and one north)
I suggest a medium size billboard at the east secondary roundabout near the Doughnut informing arriving visitors to Port Macquarie that Timbertown (Heritage Village) EXISTS!!!!
Comment 7 20 Jul 2009, 1:28 PM
Not so sure about the action / ride attractions. I do think that there is considerable scope for holding music at the venue day and NIGHT (which is largely off the agenda). We'd be interested in developing some 3-day festivals therewhich could also assist in reducing the running costs which seem substantial for such as site.
Comment 7.1 22 Jul 2009, 10:17 AM
A re-developed ampitheatre would be great for outdoor concerts.
Comment 8 20 Jul 2009, 2:46 PM
There is an increasing need for school age children to be exposed to where things come from - ranging from our food does not come from the supermarket, chickens lay eggs, meat comes from animals and vegetables are grown in dirt. I think coupling the heritage aspects of Timbertown with some educational aspects, including a small working farm, with chooks, vege garden, fruit trees, including how trees are milled, how timber is felled, how houses are constructed could be of interest to educators. If we add the ecological aspects of managing the site and resources in line with good ecological practices we could have another money spinner. I do however think this needs a true commercial management
Comment 8.1 20 Jul 2009, 9:52 PM
Vegie garden sounds great how about using a big GLASSHOUSE so we could harvest all year round.....only a suggestion
Comment 8.2 21 Jul 2009, 9:34 PM
What about tying this in to an environmental/sustainability project? Food grown could be used to feed visitors etc.
Comment 8.3 24 Jul 2009, 8:50 AM
A good place to hold the Farmers Markets, a day when it could be free entry.
Comment 9 24 Jul 2009, 12:58 PM
As a parent to 3 young children (6, 4 & 2) who grew up in the region myself (thank god peppermint park and fantasy glades existed then!!!), it really saddens me that there is such a lack of family facilities within the Hastings.
Timbertown could be such a wonderful place for families locally and visiting families also, it just needs management, community and council vision to take it to the height of possiblity.
I want my children to understand the history of this area, my family have lived here for generations, kids need interactive and fun activities that teach at the same more…
Comment 9.1 6 Aug 2009, 1:02 PM
I'd also be happy to pay an increased gate fee for increased facilities. I take my family to Bago vineyards for jazz in the vines and the kids love it and we take visitors there too, would be delighted to be able to do the same at Timbertown.
Comment 9.2 10 Aug 2009, 6:04 PM
Well put, Family-of-5!
Comment 10 27 Jul 2009, 11:54 PM
I have read many suggestions but find it almost impossible to agree or disagree, as most comments include so many related (and in some cases, unrelated) matters that I agree with parts and not with others. How about everybody participating in this forum tries to keep their suggestions more concise and, as far as possible, singular? Then others can make a choice and register their vote - or perhaps the moderators of this website could introduce a couple of options "partially agree" and "partially disagree"!
Comment 10.1 6 Aug 2009, 1:04 PM
Rani, just reply to the bit you agree or disagree with and people can agree or disagree with your point :-)
Comment 11 31 Jul 2009, 4:30 PM
I don't know of any other Historical Park similar to Timbertown left in the state. Timbertown is a unique icon and all available resources should be directed towards retaining this unique asset. An idea to activate greater usage of the park would be to construct dormitories where school children from all over the state and maybe interstate could come and stay and experience what it was like to live in a bygone era. What an excellent way to teach children about their heritage and provide a hands on experience to reinforce their understanding of the hardships that settlers and pioneers had to face. More activities that showcased primitive conditions could be added to existing facilities to further compliment the overall experience. Look at the success of the Ayers Rock development in the south where school children already visit. This region is crying out for something similar. The foundation whilst a little dated is already there!!!
Comment 12 10 Aug 2009, 6:36 PM
We know there is a market for outdoor family entertainment in the area my suggestion would be to improve the facility along the lines of Longleat park in the UK which uses a passport ticket system. The passport ticket allows unlimited entries to the park but only one visit to each attraction, further visits to each attraction are then subject to an additional charge but entry to the park itself is still free. With regard to the attractions both the peddle boats and the train should be re-instated and a large wooden adventure playground constructed. Either as a castle (Longleat) more…
